Hi Doug: What is our current view of: traversal allSalaries(CondTravVisitor,CountingVisitor, SummingVisitor c) The idea was that the CondTravVisitor controls the CountingVisitor and SummingVisitor. But this does not seem to work. In terms of plug-and-play visitors, we would have a CondTravVisitor which calls a bunch of other visitors, here only 2: CountingVisitor and SummingVisitor. The CondTravVisitor is not interested in any results from the Counting and SummingVisitors. Only at the end we want to get the values in those two visitors. While we don't have plug-and-play visitors in Demeter/Java, there should be a way to simulate them. What is the best way? -- Karl Demeter/Java version 0.7-beta-1 Copyright (c) 1998 Northeastern University Reading project file program.prj... employee count 4 total salaries 200 SUCCESS FAILURE /amd/saentis/export/adaptive/www/sources/DemeterJava/examples/j-c-holding-around =============== Doug and Binoy: Why do I get a failure in: /proj/adaptive/www/sources/DemeterJava/examples/j-c-holding-around Would like my students to use around methods. -- Karl