Thank you for your interest: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/research/demeter/sources/DemeterJava/available/status.txt Answers some of your questions. We focus all our efforts on Demeter/Java which is estimated to run on Windows 95 by March 31. Yes, Demeter/Java has a very small library on its own which is needed at run-time. Currently it contains only two classes: Ident.java (11 lines) Text.java (11 lines) The reasons why the Demeter/Java run-time system is so light, are: 1. Java is a much better match for Demeter than C++. We can reuse classes provided by the Java libraries. 2. The generic functions, like parsing and printing etc. are now generated, instead of being generic. For the parser generation we use SUN's Jack parser generator for Java. A commercial tool incorporating some of the ideas of Demeter and Adaptive Programming is developed by a commercial organization. They are in intensive development and not yet ready to ship the product. When the product is available, it will be announced at: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/research/demeter/ -- Karl Lieberherr From rcuellar@earth.hekimian.com Mon Dec 2 08:06:58 1996 From: rcuellar@earth.hekimian.com (Roland Cuellar) Message-Id: <9612021306.AA43370@earth.hekimian.com> To: demeter@ccs.neu.edu Subject: newbie Reply-To: Roland Cuellar Hi, I picked up the Demeter textbook on a whim and immediately found it fascinating. I am very anxious to try out this methodolgy on some real problems. I see from your web pages that the system is currently available for AIX and Linux with a future port to Windows, etc. Questions: 1) Do you have a plan as for when there might be a Windows version? 2) Does one need the Demeter system both at code-generation AND at run-time? Or is it needed only during code-gen? Can one perform code-gen on AIX or Linux and then take the code over to another platform and recompile? Or are there libraries that need to be linked in that are not generally available for all platforms? 3) What is the status of the Demeter Java project? thanks a lot and keep up the good work! roland cuellar rolandc@pobox.com From rcuellar@earth.hekimian.com Mon Dec 2 08:28:21 1996 To: demeter@acm.org Subject: commercial demeter Reply-To: Roland Cuellar Hi, I picked up the Demeter textbook on a whim recently and found it quite fascinating. Is there any commercial support for the demeter tools? thanks, roland cuellar rolandc@pobox.com