Hi Bob:

here is a very nice success story about having EDCS sponsored research
appearing in commercial products.

-- Karl
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Hi Debra:

Very good to hear from you.

It is very good to know that the traversal/visitor style of
programming which we developed as part of our ARPA-sponsored
Demeter project is already in a released HP product.
This is very fast technology transfer thanks to NTU.

There are definitely further opportunities in this area:

1. Tendril Software Inc. sells a tool called StructureBuilder
   which will have features supporting traversals. See:
   http://www.tendril.com/tendril.html
   The CEO of Tendril is a former HP Lab director who spent a few months
   at NU exploring Demeter and other technologies.

2. Mira Mezini at the University of Siegen in Germany works on
   a generalization of the traversal/visitor style. She has several
   papers on this and is in the process of completing her Ph.D. thesis.
   mira@informatik.uni-siegen.de

3. We have developed a new compilation algorithm for traversals
   which is very useful for implementing traversals correctly
   in a conventional environment.

4. Jens Palsberg at Purdue has built a tool for programming with
   visitors for Java. It seems to be suited for a conventional
   environment.
   palsberg@cs.purdue.edu

Is HP looking into providing tools for supporting the traversal
visitor style of programming?

Best regards,
-- Karl
PS. Your short report:
http://www.ccs.neu.edu/research/demeter/evaluation/conventional-env/hp.html
is frequently visited.
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From DEBRA_BACON@HP-Vancouver-om1.om.hp.com Wed Aug 13 14:01:07 1997
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 97 11:01:02 -0700
Subject: uses of adaptive programming in conventional c++ environment
TO: lieber@ccs.neu.edu

Hi Karl,

I wrote a paper in your fall 96 Adaptive O-O S/W class, concerning the
use of adaptive programming in conventional c++ environment.  We've
released the product that was implemented using your concepts.  I am
curious about any recent efforts that you know of that extends the
concepts within a conventional c++ or J++ environment.  Do you see
opportunities for further exploitation in this area?  

Deb Bacon
dbacon@vcd.hp.com