The break-even price b (obtained through an optimally biased bent coin) tells us that when we offer a challenge MAXCSP classic ( belief (R,ar) , confidence) [offerer claims there is a problem where ar CANNOT be satisfied] with approximation ratio ar, we know that ar > b. We have a lower bound for ar for offering. Can we also get an upper bound? Yes: ???? if we have a problem PT where all solutions satisfy less than T. In this case, T > ar > b. If an agent accept our challenge, we give it PT to solve and we know that strange: no longer reason about profit but about whether supporting or discounting will happen. If ar >> b: offerer has possibility of supporting (if ar < b: acceptor would discount, if acceptor is rational) How much bigger than b should ar be? Depends on the problem size. If we have a problem PT of allowed problem size where all solutions satisfy less than T. If ar = T, we will have support: offerer gives PT as problem and offerer wins support.